- This topic has 3 replies, 3 voices, and was last updated December 30, 2019 at 8:19 pm by David Mercer.
November 6, 2019 at 11:42 am #787Jill Bridges
Curious about hard to manage/breed species, and how we handle that with BAP. For example, I’m working with licorice gourami, that are part of the parosphromenus project to save the species, as well as CARES. These guys have to have live food at all times, and honestly, I’d be terrified to upset their tank by trying to catch any, plus my colony isn’t really big enough that I’m comfortable sharing yet. I do have videos to show the offspring (3-5 each of two spawns).
Do you think that for these types of situations, maybe we can substitute an in depth article or something in place of auctioning the fish? Curious as to others thoughts, and if there are other species that you feel this way about?
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Ask me about the CARES Program!November 6, 2019 at 3:20 pm #790Jeremy CaswellParticipant
The stated purpose of BAP is to keep the species moving through the club.
It’s not enough to just show YOUR ability to successfully breed the fish, but to allow at least one other person the chance as well, instead of stockpiling in the hands of one individual.
The Breeders Award Program (BAP) is established to recognize the accomplishments of AAAA members, to promote members’ involvement in breeding fishes, to gather and share information on breeding, and to provide a wide range of fish to the membership during auctions. In order to obtain points for fish a member must bring in a minimum of five young, at least sixty days old and put them up for the auction.December 29, 2019 at 8:08 pm #918Jill Bridges
I understand the current rules. My thought was that we’d be sharing the knowledge via an article or talk, for species we can’t share actual fish.
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Ask me about the CARES Program!December 30, 2019 at 8:19 pm #922David MercerAdmin
Previously when I asked a similar question it was suggested that for more difficult species or slower breeding species that smaller amounts could be brought in over time until the 6 required was hit. Clearly at least pairs works best for the intent of the program but it allows you to at least bring in a few over time rather than having to eventually turn in several adults with your most recent offspring or destroying your whole colony in one swoop. This would obviously have to be cleared with the BAP chair to ensure it was documented correctly.
It is an interesting question though and goes to what is the primary purpose of BAP. If it is to bring knowledge about breeding into the club to disseminate then perhaps this could be a good option; Although I would think it would need to be a more intense article than normal, perhaps even a presentation. If the purpose is to bring species into the club for others to gain the breeding experience then as few exceptions as possible should probably be made. Either way it always gets tricky deciding where the line is.
I’d be interested if there is a non CARES species that fits this category. My initial inkling is that CARES has its own program so if that is the priority it can be submitted under those rules to get recognition rather than exempting them from standard BAP rules. But at least personally I could probably be convinced otherwise.
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